These boots were a great value if you're looking to get high-end leather with precision craftsmanship which is typically to be expected from Indonesian made boots. Had a great time the last 6 months just wearing these for almost all activities. At times I wonder if I should have entered this as a work boot. I dug holes, got covered by blood, hiked trails, office work and everything else in between. They held up great and looked good. Photos do not do it justice probably because I'm a terrible photographer.