did not really care about them and just wore them :)
i was impressed how quick the brown tone come trough the black leather. i think it took around 2 months. the leather is pretty stiff and inflexible in the beginning but it imprved with wear.
they are good but half size smaller would be great. the shinki hh feels smaller than my same pair in roughout cxl
love it like all my jlb boots
always served me well:)
go for them! wonderful pair!